What is the status of this project?

[kawshar]

What is the status of this project?

Hi leaders, I would like to know the decision about this initiative. Shall we continue or you guys decided to abandon this?

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[brianteeman]

based on activity (or lack of) and your statements about not complying with the requirements that were set I assumed that you had abandoned it.

(personal statement)

[kawshar]

Not really. Not getting any clear instructions about what to do or what not to do. Feeling like we are trying to sell our premium products to Joomla. Also, slow approval of PR makes the development process slower.

[brianteeman]

well @marcodings is the project manager for this

[kawshar]

I know.

Btw, I have a question. Please tell me your honest opinion about this initiative. Do you think we should continue or you think we should stop?

If you think we should stop then let me know some points. That will be really helpful.

Thank you

[brianteeman]

My personal opinion has always been that if this template would work along side the current template and offers at least the same features and the same level of accessibility then it has value

[kawshar]

Well, that's not actually a lot of work. It may take couple of days to fix. But, what is the point to keep backward compatibility with Atum? Shipping this template with Atum? Is not it gonna make extension developers' lives disaster?

[brianteeman]

I seriously doubt your time estimates to achieve that based on my observations of the changes here.

Extension devs lives will be a disaster if there are two templates that are not compatible with each other.

It will be harder to maintain two templates as we have seen with hathor and isis but that was mainly because they were not really compatible with each other

[kawshar]

Did not we finish the initiative on time? Did you release the first beta so far? We had some accessibility issues, but we could fix them. However, I would like to know the decision.

[brianteeman]

Did not we finish the initiative on time?

Depends on your definition of finished. From my perspective it is not finished as it didnt meet the requirements.

[kawshar]

We finished the initial development. Atum also did not meet the requirements. It's still not accessible, has a lot of UX issues and UI is really outdated. Look, I am not here to debate with you. What I wanted to know the final thought. If you think this is a good initiative then we will work hard to meet the requirements. But, if you guys think that it's garbage then we will stop putting our efforts and will focus on our daily basis projects.

@marcodings please check this.

Thanks

[brianteeman]

As for accessibility - it is compliant in all but about 3 extreme edge cases. If you know of any others then please let me know

[kawshar]

You guys helped that directly. That's why it's accessible. If you guys just lend a small helping hand, we could get it done in no time.

However, I am waiting for @marcodings reply.

[brianteeman]

I was referring to the accessibility of atum and not this template which is a long long way from being accessible

[kawshar]

Got it. You are awesome.

[kawshar]

I have checked the Atum template again by seeing your confidence. We are in real trouble. I wish Joomla 4 never be a reality with Atum. In fact, Joomla 3 is at least 5 years ahead in terms of UX & modern design. God help us.