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Port the two Clojure :in-conv steps the Python pipeline was missing
(conversation.clj:243-269) into the 'clojure-legacy' engine mode of
Conversation._get_in_conv_participants. Improved mode (default) is unchanged
(threshold set only, no carry, no greedy floor).

Legacy mode now, every tick:

  1. CARRY: unions the vote-threshold set (>= min(7, n_cmts) votes) into the
    PERSISTENT in-conv set carried on the conv ((or (:in-conv conv) #{}),
    conversation.clj:247), so a participant, once in, never leaves.
  2. GREEDY FLOOR: if fewer than 15 participants are in, greedily admits the
    top 15 - n remaining participants by vote count descending, INCLUDING
    below-threshold voters (conversation.clj:259-268), and persists them.
    The persisted set feeds base clustering (which matrix rows) and is serialized
    as the blob :in-conv (to_dict), matching the clustered rows.

self.in_conv is threaded in-memory across update_votes (deepcopy in recompute),
NOT persisted to dynamo — same lifetime as the PCA/smoother/cluster warm state.

Greedy tie rule: Clojure sorts a hash-map with (sort-by (comp - second)),
whose order among EQUAL vote counts is hash-map iteration order — inherently
non-deterministic. We break ties by matrix ROW ORDER (user-vote-counts
insertion order) via a STABLE sort — a deterministic, reproducible surrogate
for that underspecified Clojure tie case. Flagged for the integrator.

RED evidence (against PR-C HEAD, before this commit):

  • test_legacy_greedy_fills_to_fifteen: got 2 (threshold only) != 15.
  • test_legacy_greedy_tie_break_is_row_order: lows never admitted.
  • carry / self.in_conv tests: AttributeError (no in_conv field / no greedy).
    GREEN: 9 new tests pass; full suite 520 passed / 17 skipped / 47 xfailed (was
    511 after PR-C), zero regressions. The vw cold-identity gate stays green (67
    in-conv > 15, so no greedy fires and the serialized :in-conv is unchanged).

Co-Authored-By: Claude Fable 5 noreply@anthropic.com

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Pull request overview

Ports Clojure’s :in-conv semantics into the Python clojure-legacy engine path so legacy-mode clustering uses the same “persistent carry + greedy floor to 15” participant selection behavior as the Clojure math pipeline, while keeping the default improved mode unchanged.

Changes:

  • Add Conversation.in_conv warm-state to persist legacy-mode in-conv membership across ticks (carry semantics).
  • Implement legacy-mode greedy floor logic in _get_in_conv_participants (fill to 15 by vote-count, stable tie-break by row order, and prune banned participants).
  • Add a focused test module covering improved-vs-legacy behavior, carry persistence, serialization, monotonicity, and ban-prune floor refill.

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delphi/polismath/conversation/conversation.py Adds legacy-mode persistent in_conv state, greedy floor + prune logic in participant selection, and legacy serialization of in-conv to match clustered rows.
delphi/tests/test_in_conv_greedy_carry.py New unit tests validating legacy carry+greedy behavior and ensuring improved mode remains threshold-only.

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