[None][fix] Kimi K3: admit every trtllm-gen SiTu quant format, not just MXFP4 - #18709
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FrozenSet usage with frozenset[QuantAlgo], use QuantAlgo | None, and annotate
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tests/unittest/_torch/moe/test_kimi_k3_situ_moe.py at lines 626-626 and 644-645,
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…st MXFP4 KimiK3MoERuntime rejected any routed-expert quantization other than W4A8_MXFP4_MXFP8 on the TRTLLM backend. That was correct when it was written in NVIDIA#17865 -- MXFP4 was then the only fused SiTu FC1 drop -- but (Bmm_E2m1_E2m1E2m1_..._siTuGlu_*) and updated only TRTLLMGenFusedMoE._SITU_SUPPORTED_QUANT_ALGOS, leaving the model layer's copy behind. Since then the tree has contradicted itself: the backend declares NVFP4 servable and the model refuses to build it. The blast radius is wider than an explicit backend request. ModelConfig.resolve_moe_backend maps every Kimi K3 architecture to TRTLLM unconditionally, so an NVFP4 K3 checkpoint could not start under the default AUTO configuration either -- the documented workaround ("backend: CUTLASS is required, not a preference") is in examples/kimi_k3/eval_extra_llm_options_nvfp4_dep16.yaml and is itself now stale. Nothing caught it because every existing SiTu test reaches the kernels through create_moe and never enters this guard, so the NVFP4 x TRTLLM kernel path stayed green for the whole window. Read the admitted set off the backend instead of restating it, and add the two tests that enter through the guard: one asserting the model admits everything the backend claims, one asserting formats without a fused cubin are still rejected and still name the fix. Signed-off-by: Xin Guan <294044352+xguannv@users.noreply.github.com>
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Resolution reads the class attribute. It has to: it judges candidates before any instance exists, and moe_resolution._activation_rejection says so outright -- an instance may narrow a shape, never admit one its class refuses. This branch had it backwards, declaring UNSUPPORTED on the class and widening to UNIFORM_SCALAR in a per-instance resolve_activation_support. The override was therefore never consulted by the resolver, and every Kimi K3 MoE layer was turned down with MoE backend CUTEDSL cannot serve this layer [layer_idx=1] (activation_unsupported: CuteDslFusedMoE kernels take no activation alpha, which this layer's SiTu supplies); running CutlassFusedMoE instead on all 16 ranks, 92 layers each. Kimi K3 permits degradation for this backend, so the run produced correct text and a zero exit: a request for CUTEDSL silently ran CUTLASS. Declaring the pair on the class is safe for the other two kinds this backend executes, because neither supplies it. SwigluActivation.constants fills only limit and Relu2 fills nothing; SwigluBias is the kind that fills alpha/beta, and it is not in kinds. The per-instance override is deleted rather than inverted -- there is nothing left for it to do. The unit tests could not have caught this. They construct the backend directly and so never reach the resolver, the same blind spot that let the model-layer quant guard rot in NVIDIA#18709. Add a resolution-level test that calls _activation_rejection with a SiTU problem, for CUTLASS as well, so the next backend to grow SiTU inherits the check. Signed-off-by: Xin Guan <294044352+xguannv@users.noreply.github.com>
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With the Blackwell act-fusion kernel carrying the SiTU epilogue and the op carrying the soft-caps, what remains is to stop refusing the activation and to hand the constants over. CuteDslFusedMoE declares the alpha/beta pair on the *class*. Resolution reads the class attribute -- it has to, since it judges candidates before any instance exists -- and moe_resolution._activation_rejection states the invariant outright: an instance may narrow a shape, never admit one its class refuses. An earlier revision of this branch had it backwards, declaring UNSUPPORTED on the class and widening per instance, and every K3 layer was turned down on all 16 ranks with "CuteDslFusedMoE kernels take no activation alpha, which this layer's SiTu supplies". Kimi K3 permitted degradation for this backend, so the run produced correct text and exited zero while running CUTLASS. Declaring the pair on the class is safe for the other two kinds this backend executes: SwigluActivation.constants fills only limit and Relu2 fills nothing. SwigluBias is the kind that fills alpha/beta, and it is not in kinds. run_moe_nvfp4 admits SiTu and forwards act_alpha / act_beta as the two betas -- that is where SiTuActivation.constants() lands, reduced to uniform scalars by the declared shape. They are forwarded only for SiTU so every other kind keeps hitting the op default. The other three activation gates in the file are deliberately untouched: the unquantized BF16 method interleaves FC1 weights for a kernel that fuses SwiGLU by name, the locality-domain half-GEMM has no SiTU parameters on its op, and the FP8 block-scale path evaluates SwiGLU in Python. SiTU is turned down on SM107. run_moe_nvfp4 dispatches to the Rubin act-fusion kernel there, whose SUPPORTED_ACTIVATION_TYPES is still (Swiglu, Relu2); reaching it would trip an assert inside the kernel instead of resolving to another backend. CUTEDSL also joins the list of backends whose K3 request must not degrade silently. That list already held both MegaMoE backends for the reason above; CuteDSL declines for more causes than they do (activation shape, SM version, the CuTe DSL dependency), and the failure described above is what an unnoticed decline looks like. Also correct the NVFP4 eval recipe's comment, which still told readers CUTLASS was required because trtllm-gen served MXFP4 only. That stopped being true in NVIDIA#17940 and the guard repeating it was removed in NVIDIA#18709. Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 5 (1M context) <noreply@anthropic.com> Signed-off-by: Xin Guan <294044352+xguannv@users.noreply.github.com>
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Three additions, each aimed at a way this backend can fail quietly. test_nvfp4_kernel_actually_applies_situ gains CUTEDSL. The other two backends fail loudly if SiTU goes missing -- CUTLASS has no matching activation enum, TRTLLM-Gen no matching cubin. CuteDSL does not: its soft-caps are trace-time scalars folded into a JIT-compiled epilogue, so dropping them compiles a SwiGLU kernel and returns plausible numbers. Scoring the output against a SiTU reference and a SwiGLU reference, with no tolerance, is the only way to tell those apart. test_situ_survives_resolution_not_just_construction calls _activation_rejection directly. Every other SiTU test constructs a backend and so never consults activation_support; resolution does, and it reads the class attribute. A per-instance declaration passed the entire unit suite and then resolved away to CUTLASS on hardware. CUTLASS is parametrized alongside so the next backend to grow SiTU inherits it. test_kimi_k3_allow_list_matches_what_the_backends_declare asserts the model-layer allow-list against each backend's own activation_support rather than a literal list. A hand-maintained second copy of a capability set is what NVIDIA#18709 had to fix; this keeps a new one from forming. The CUTEDSL parameter probes the CuTe DSL wheel inside the test body rather than in a skipif: importing cute_dsl_utils at module scope pulls in a package that appends its own directory to sys.path, which this repository's magic_import hooks reject at session level. Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 5 (1M context) <noreply@anthropic.com> Signed-off-by: Xin Guan <294044352+xguannv@users.noreply.github.com>
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Three additions, each aimed at a way this backend can fail quietly. test_nvfp4_kernel_actually_applies_situ gains CUTEDSL. The other two backends fail loudly if SiTU goes missing -- CUTLASS has no matching activation enum, TRTLLM-Gen no matching cubin. CuteDSL does not: its soft-caps are trace-time scalars folded into a JIT-compiled epilogue, so dropping them compiles a SwiGLU kernel and returns plausible numbers. Scoring the output against a SiTU reference and a SwiGLU reference, with no tolerance, is the only way to tell those apart. test_situ_survives_resolution_not_just_construction calls _activation_rejection directly. Every other SiTU test constructs a backend and so never consults activation_support; resolution does, and it reads the class attribute. A per-instance declaration passed the entire unit suite and then resolved away to CUTLASS on hardware. CUTLASS is parametrized alongside so the next backend to grow SiTU inherits it. test_kimi_k3_allow_list_matches_what_the_backends_declare asserts the model-layer allow-list against each backend's own activation_support rather than a literal list. A hand-maintained second copy of a capability set is what NVIDIA#18709 had to fix; this keeps a new one from forming. The CUTEDSL parameter probes the CuTe DSL wheel inside the test body rather than in a skipif: importing cute_dsl_utils at module scope pulls in a package that appends its own directory to sys.path, which this repository's magic_import hooks reject at session level. Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 5 (1M context) <noreply@anthropic.com> Signed-off-by: Xin Guan <294044352+xguannv@users.noreply.github.com>
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With the Blackwell act-fusion kernel carrying the SiTU epilogue and the op carrying the soft-caps, what remains is to stop refusing the activation and to hand the constants over. CuteDslFusedMoE declares the alpha/beta pair on the *class*. Resolution reads the class attribute -- it has to, since it judges candidates before any instance exists -- and moe_resolution._activation_rejection states the invariant outright: an instance may narrow a shape, never admit one its class refuses. An earlier revision of this branch had it backwards, declaring UNSUPPORTED on the class and widening per instance, and every K3 layer was turned down on all 16 ranks with "CuteDslFusedMoE kernels take no activation alpha, which this layer's SiTu supplies". Kimi K3 permitted degradation for this backend, so the run produced correct text and exited zero while running CUTLASS. Declaring the pair on the class is safe for the other two kinds this backend executes: SwigluActivation.constants fills only limit and Relu2 fills nothing. SwigluBias is the kind that fills alpha/beta, and it is not in kinds. run_moe_nvfp4 admits SiTu and forwards act_alpha / act_beta as the two betas -- that is where SiTuActivation.constants() lands, reduced to uniform scalars by the declared shape. They are forwarded only for SiTU so every other kind keeps hitting the op default. The other three activation gates in the file are deliberately untouched: the unquantized BF16 method interleaves FC1 weights for a kernel that fuses SwiGLU by name, the locality-domain half-GEMM has no SiTU parameters on its op, and the FP8 block-scale path evaluates SwiGLU in Python. SiTU is turned down on SM107. run_moe_nvfp4 dispatches to the Rubin act-fusion kernel there, whose SUPPORTED_ACTIVATION_TYPES is still (Swiglu, Relu2); reaching it would trip an assert inside the kernel instead of resolving to another backend. CUTEDSL also joins the list of backends whose K3 request must not degrade silently. That list already held both MegaMoE backends for the reason above; CuteDSL declines for more causes than they do (activation shape, SM version, the CuTe DSL dependency), and the failure described above is what an unnoticed decline looks like. Also correct the NVFP4 eval recipe's comment, which still told readers CUTLASS was required because trtllm-gen served MXFP4 only. That stopped being true in NVIDIA#17940 and the guard repeating it was removed in NVIDIA#18709. Signed-off-by: Xin Guan <294044352+xguannv@users.noreply.github.com>
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Three additions, each aimed at a way this backend can fail quietly. test_nvfp4_kernel_actually_applies_situ gains CUTEDSL. The other two backends fail loudly if SiTU goes missing -- CUTLASS has no matching activation enum, TRTLLM-Gen no matching cubin. CuteDSL does not: its soft-caps are trace-time scalars folded into a JIT-compiled epilogue, so dropping them compiles a SwiGLU kernel and returns plausible numbers. Scoring the output against a SiTU reference and a SwiGLU reference, with no tolerance, is the only way to tell those apart. test_situ_survives_resolution_not_just_construction calls _activation_rejection directly. Every other SiTU test constructs a backend and so never consults activation_support; resolution does, and it reads the class attribute. A per-instance declaration passed the entire unit suite and then resolved away to CUTLASS on hardware. CUTLASS is parametrized alongside so the next backend to grow SiTU inherits it. test_kimi_k3_allow_list_matches_what_the_backends_declare asserts the model-layer allow-list against each backend's own activation_support rather than a literal list. A hand-maintained second copy of a capability set is what NVIDIA#18709 had to fix; this keeps a new one from forming. The CUTEDSL parameter probes the CuTe DSL wheel inside the test body rather than in a skipif: importing cute_dsl_utils at module scope pulls in a package that appends its own directory to sys.path, which this repository's magic_import hooks reject at session level. Signed-off-by: Xin Guan <294044352+xguannv@users.noreply.github.com>
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…leven leaves with canonical identities One class served six quantization formats plus an unquantized BF16 path, across two kernel providers, and decided which of them it was only after it had been constructed. ``__init__`` probed the SM version, the FlashInfer wheel and an opt-in flag and then swapped its own op backend; ``_get_quant_method`` branched on ``layer_quant_mode``; a format whose cubin family ships no SiTu epilogue was found out by a raise in ``__init__``, after selection had already named a winner. None of that was visible to resolution, so the resolver could only answer at family granularity and construction decided whether its answer was real. It is eleven classes now, one per addressable (provider, technique, kernel, quant) coordinate, each registered in ``MOE_IMPL_REGISTRY`` under a canonical ``MoEImplId``. Six are native and five are FlashInfer: the wheel serves five of the seven format coordinates, having no runner for either W4A8 variant with fp8 activation, and carrying the unquantized one alone. Every gate reads ``MoEProblem`` and ``MoEDeployment`` and nothing else -- no ``get_sm_version()``, no ``os.environ``, no import probe -- so an offline tuner on a GPU-less host reaches the verdict a serving process would, and ``trtllm.trtllm_gen.fused_moe.nvfp4`` is addressable as a pin. ``TRTLLMGenFusedMoE`` stays. It is the abstract family base the ``issubclass`` dispatch in create_moe.py keys on, and ``fused_moe_trtllm_gen`` stays a supported module path for callers that import the name. It carries no descriptor and defines none of the four abstract methods, so no request can reach it. Which leaf wins for a given format is unchanged. IMPL_PRIORITY lists each FlashInfer leaf ahead of the native leaf of the same format, so the opt-in flag alone decides which is asked first, and a TRTLLM literal without the flag still lands on the native kernel it always did. What moved is where the answer is given. ``_check_flashinfer_backend_support``'s instance probe is now ``check_flashinfer_provider``, reading the flag through ``MoEEnvironment.env_flag``, so an opted-out FlashInfer leaf declines with PATH_NOT_ENABLED and one on a host without the wheel with DEP_MISSING. SiTu is answered the same way: it exists only as a fused FC1 epilogue in the NVFP4 and W4A8_MXFP4_MXFP8 cubin families, so the other nine leaves are turned down during selection rather than raising once built. DeepSeek-V4 gets its FlashInfer path back. A routing method answers two questions that are not one question: which encoding the C++ kernels recognize, and which algorithm it computes. V4's sqrtsoftplus scoring has no encoding of its own so it borrows V3's, and the provider gate -- which reads a problem rather than an instance, because a problem has to stay comparable across ranks -- matched the borrowed value and turned V4 down for fusing routing it does not fuse. ``resolution_routing_method_type`` is the second answer, defaulting to the first and overridden only where the two differ. A module exclusion now outranks the MoE quant override. ``ConfigurableMoE.create_weights`` treats ``override_quant_config`` as authoritative over whatever ``__post_init__`` wrote, so for a model that passes one, ``apply_quant_config_exclude_modules`` was discarded and the layer allocated quantized weights for experts the checkpoint left in bf16. The backend cannot catch it either, since the override matches the backend's own format and the format check passes. Kimi-K3, MiniMax-M3 and Nemotron-H resolve the exclusion themselves and let it win. The Qwen3 gate stopped naming an implementation. It resolved a class before ``__post_init__`` had settled the layer's format, only to narrow routing to that class's ``routing_scales_dtype`` -- a guess that, when it missed, left routing below what the bound backend requires, which MoEScheduler asserts on rather than repairs, since widening cannot recover mantissa the narrow emit already dropped. Routing emits its own full precision now, and the wrapper reads ``input_requirement.routing_scales_dtype`` back off the bound backend after create_moe returns. That keeps the elementwise launch the guess existed to save without predicting anything: both renormalize ops take the dtype as a kernel argument and store in it directly. TLLM_MOE_ENABLE_SHARED_EXPERT_FUSION keeps its name and its meaning, but is read through the collected selection environment as ``MoEEnvFlag.SHARED_EXPERT_FUSION`` rather than from ``os.environ`` at construction, so it enters the selection fingerprint. It decides how many expert slots the routed GEMM builds, and two ranks disagreeing on it could otherwise share a fingerprint while building differently shaped layers. Two APIs main grew on the monolith are carried onto the family base rather than dropped. ``situ_supported_quant_algos`` (NVIDIA#18709) is derived from the leaves' own ``supports_situ`` instead of a restated set -- restating it is what that PR was fixing. The SiTu MoE-TP check asks for whole scale groups rather than the physical alignment (NVIDIA#18870), which is the right constraint now that the padded loaders pad each logical shard themselves. BREAKING CHANGE, taken deliberately, and it supersedes NVIDIA#18770. Resolution picks an implementation from the model-level ``quant_algo``, and two later passes can give an individual layer a different ``quant_config``: ``apply_layerwise_quant_config`` for per-layer quantization, and ``apply_quant_config_exclude_modules`` for a module the checkpoint leaves unquantized. The monolith served every format from one class, so a layer that moved needed only a different op provider -- which is what NVIDIA#18770 re-resolved in ``create_weights``, moving an NVFP4 model's unquantized MoE layer onto FlashInfer, the only provider carrying BF16 kernels. A leaf *is* its (provider, format) pair, so there is no field left to re-resolve: the class itself is wrong, and the layer would have to become a different one. That is deferred binding, which this branch deliberately does not carry, so the same checkpoint raises at load instead. ``ConfigurableMoE._resync_op_provider`` and ``test_moe_op_provider_resync.py`` go with it. ``use_flashinfer`` is a constant of the leaf class now, so the mirror they kept in step can never move and the NVLink two-sided guard they carried can never fire. The budget goes to the message instead. By the time the check runs, the pass that moved the layer has returned, so the raise names the layer index, both formats, and the two passes that could be responsible. ``test_a_leaf_refuses_a_layer_whose_format_moved_after_it_was_picked`` pins it so it cannot regress quietly. test_moe_impl.py covers the grid as a whole: that exactly eleven trtllm_gen identities register, that each leaf declares its own descriptor and all four abstract methods rather than inheriting them, that each admits only its own format, and that the parent is unaddressable -- plus the provider and SiTu gates, the DeepSeek-V4 split, and the identity-query parser. MOE_DEVELOPER_GUIDE.md is updated for the new layout and for the rule that an abstract parent must not branch on the axis its subclasses divide. Signed-off-by: xxi <xxi@nvidia.com>
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…leven leaves with canonical identities One class served six quantization formats plus an unquantized BF16 path, across two kernel providers, and decided which of them it was only after it had been constructed. ``__init__`` probed the SM version, the FlashInfer wheel and an opt-in flag and then swapped its own op backend; ``_get_quant_method`` branched on ``layer_quant_mode``; a format whose cubin family ships no SiTu epilogue was found out by a raise in ``__init__``, after selection had already named a winner. None of that was visible to resolution, so the resolver could only answer at family granularity and construction decided whether its answer was real. It is eleven classes now, one per addressable (provider, technique, kernel, quant) coordinate, each registered in ``MOE_IMPL_REGISTRY`` under a canonical ``MoEImplId``. Six are native and five are FlashInfer: the wheel serves five of the seven format coordinates, having no runner for either W4A8 variant with fp8 activation, and carrying the unquantized one alone. Every gate reads ``MoEProblem`` and ``MoEDeployment`` and nothing else -- no ``get_sm_version()``, no ``os.environ``, no import probe -- so an offline tuner on a GPU-less host reaches the verdict a serving process would, and ``trtllm.trtllm_gen.fused_moe.nvfp4`` is addressable as a pin. ``TRTLLMGenFusedMoE`` stays. It is the abstract family base the ``issubclass`` dispatch in create_moe.py keys on, and ``fused_moe_trtllm_gen`` stays a supported module path for callers that import the name. It carries no descriptor and defines none of the four abstract methods, so no request can reach it. Which leaf wins for a given format is unchanged. IMPL_PRIORITY lists each FlashInfer leaf ahead of the native leaf of the same format, so the opt-in flag alone decides which is asked first, and a TRTLLM literal without the flag still lands on the native kernel it always did. What moved is where the answer is given. ``_check_flashinfer_backend_support``'s instance probe is now ``check_flashinfer_provider``, reading the flag through ``MoEEnvironment.env_flag``, so an opted-out FlashInfer leaf declines with PATH_NOT_ENABLED and one on a host without the wheel with DEP_MISSING. SiTu is answered the same way: it exists only as a fused FC1 epilogue in the NVFP4 and W4A8_MXFP4_MXFP8 cubin families, so the other nine leaves are turned down during selection rather than raising once built. DeepSeek-V4 gets its FlashInfer path back. A routing method answers two questions that are not one question: which encoding the C++ kernels recognize, and which algorithm it computes. V4's sqrtsoftplus scoring has no encoding of its own so it borrows V3's, and the provider gate -- which reads a problem rather than an instance, because a problem has to stay comparable across ranks -- matched the borrowed value and turned V4 down for fusing routing it does not fuse. ``resolution_routing_method_type`` is the second answer, defaulting to the first and overridden only where the two differ. A module exclusion now outranks the MoE quant override. ``ConfigurableMoE.create_weights`` treats ``override_quant_config`` as authoritative over whatever ``__post_init__`` wrote, so for a model that passes one, ``apply_quant_config_exclude_modules`` was discarded and the layer allocated quantized weights for experts the checkpoint left in bf16. The backend cannot catch it either, since the override matches the backend's own format and the format check passes. Kimi-K3, MiniMax-M3 and Nemotron-H resolve the exclusion themselves and let it win. The Qwen3 gate stopped naming an implementation. It resolved a class before ``__post_init__`` had settled the layer's format, only to narrow routing to that class's ``routing_scales_dtype`` -- a guess that, when it missed, left routing below what the bound backend requires, which MoEScheduler asserts on rather than repairs, since widening cannot recover mantissa the narrow emit already dropped. Routing emits its own full precision now, and the wrapper reads ``input_requirement.routing_scales_dtype`` back off the bound backend after create_moe returns. That keeps the elementwise launch the guess existed to save without predicting anything: both renormalize ops take the dtype as a kernel argument and store in it directly. TLLM_MOE_ENABLE_SHARED_EXPERT_FUSION keeps its name and its meaning, but is read through the collected selection environment as ``MoEEnvFlag.SHARED_EXPERT_FUSION`` rather than from ``os.environ`` at construction, so it enters the selection fingerprint. It decides how many expert slots the routed GEMM builds, and two ranks disagreeing on it could otherwise share a fingerprint while building differently shaped layers. Two APIs main grew on the monolith are carried onto the family base rather than dropped. ``situ_supported_quant_algos`` (NVIDIA#18709) is derived from the leaves' own ``supports_situ`` instead of a restated set -- restating it is what that PR was fixing. The SiTu MoE-TP check asks for whole scale groups rather than the physical alignment (NVIDIA#18870), which is the right constraint now that the padded loaders pad each logical shard themselves. BREAKING CHANGE, taken deliberately, and it supersedes NVIDIA#18770. Resolution picks an implementation from the model-level ``quant_algo``, and two later passes can give an individual layer a different ``quant_config``: ``apply_layerwise_quant_config`` for per-layer quantization, and ``apply_quant_config_exclude_modules`` for a module the checkpoint leaves unquantized. The monolith served every format from one class, so a layer that moved needed only a different op provider -- which is what NVIDIA#18770 re-resolved in ``create_weights``, moving an NVFP4 model's unquantized MoE layer onto FlashInfer, the only provider carrying BF16 kernels. A leaf *is* its (provider, format) pair, so there is no field left to re-resolve: the class itself is wrong, and the layer would have to become a different one. That is deferred binding, which this branch deliberately does not carry, so the same checkpoint raises at load instead. ``ConfigurableMoE._resync_op_provider`` and ``test_moe_op_provider_resync.py`` go with it. ``use_flashinfer`` is a constant of the leaf class now, so the mirror they kept in step can never move and the NVLink two-sided guard they carried can never fire. The budget goes to the message instead. By the time the check runs, the pass that moved the layer has returned, so the raise names the layer index, both formats, and the two passes that could be responsible. ``test_a_leaf_refuses_a_layer_whose_format_moved_after_it_was_picked`` pins it so it cannot regress quietly. test_moe_impl.py covers the grid as a whole: that exactly eleven trtllm_gen identities register, that each leaf declares its own descriptor and all four abstract methods rather than inheriting them, that each admits only its own format, and that the parent is unaddressable -- plus the provider and SiTu gates, the DeepSeek-V4 split, and the identity-query parser. MOE_DEVELOPER_GUIDE.md is updated for the new layout and for the rule that an abstract parent must not branch on the axis its subclasses divide. Signed-off-by: xxi <xxi@nvidia.com>
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…leven leaves with canonical identities One class served six quantization formats plus an unquantized BF16 path, across two kernel providers, and decided which of them it was only after it had been constructed. ``__init__`` probed the SM version, the FlashInfer wheel and an opt-in flag and then swapped its own op backend; ``_get_quant_method`` branched on ``layer_quant_mode``; a format whose cubin family ships no SiTu epilogue was found out by a raise in ``__init__``, after selection had already named a winner. None of that was visible to resolution, so the resolver could only answer at family granularity and construction decided whether its answer was real. It is eleven classes now, one per addressable (provider, technique, kernel, quant) coordinate, each registered in ``MOE_IMPL_REGISTRY`` under a canonical ``MoEImplId``. Six are native and five are FlashInfer: the wheel serves five of the seven format coordinates, having no runner for either W4A8 variant with fp8 activation, and carrying the unquantized one alone. Every gate reads ``MoEProblem`` and ``MoEDeployment`` and nothing else -- no ``get_sm_version()``, no ``os.environ``, no import probe -- so an offline tuner on a GPU-less host reaches the verdict a serving process would, and ``trtllm.trtllm_gen.fused_moe.nvfp4`` is addressable as a pin. ``TRTLLMGenFusedMoE`` stays. It is the abstract family base the ``issubclass`` dispatch in create_moe.py keys on, and ``fused_moe_trtllm_gen`` stays a supported module path for callers that import the name. It carries no descriptor and defines none of the four abstract methods, so no request can reach it. Which leaf wins for a given format is unchanged. IMPL_PRIORITY lists each FlashInfer leaf ahead of the native leaf of the same format, so the opt-in flag alone decides which is asked first, and a TRTLLM literal without the flag still lands on the native kernel it always did. What moved is where the answer is given. ``_check_flashinfer_backend_support``'s instance probe is now ``check_flashinfer_provider``, reading the flag through ``MoEEnvironment.env_flag``, so an opted-out FlashInfer leaf declines with PATH_NOT_ENABLED and one on a host without the wheel with DEP_MISSING. SiTu is answered the same way: it exists only as a fused FC1 epilogue in the NVFP4 and W4A8_MXFP4_MXFP8 cubin families, so the other nine leaves are turned down during selection rather than raising once built. DeepSeek-V4 gets its FlashInfer path back. A routing method answers two questions that are not one question: which encoding the C++ kernels recognize, and which algorithm it computes. V4's sqrtsoftplus scoring has no encoding of its own so it borrows V3's, and the provider gate -- which reads a problem rather than an instance, because a problem has to stay comparable across ranks -- matched the borrowed value and turned V4 down for fusing routing it does not fuse. ``resolution_routing_method_type`` is the second answer, defaulting to the first and overridden only where the two differ. A module exclusion now outranks the MoE quant override. ``ConfigurableMoE.create_weights`` treats ``override_quant_config`` as authoritative over whatever ``__post_init__`` wrote, so for a model that passes one, ``apply_quant_config_exclude_modules`` was discarded and the layer allocated quantized weights for experts the checkpoint left in bf16. The backend cannot catch it either, since the override matches the backend's own format and the format check passes. Kimi-K3, MiniMax-M3 and Nemotron-H resolve the exclusion themselves and let it win. The Qwen3 gate stopped naming an implementation. It resolved a class before ``__post_init__`` had settled the layer's format, only to narrow routing to that class's ``routing_scales_dtype`` -- a guess that, when it missed, left routing below what the bound backend requires, which MoEScheduler asserts on rather than repairs, since widening cannot recover mantissa the narrow emit already dropped. Routing emits its own full precision now, and the wrapper reads ``input_requirement.routing_scales_dtype`` back off the bound backend after create_moe returns. That keeps the elementwise launch the guess existed to save without predicting anything: both renormalize ops take the dtype as a kernel argument and store in it directly. TLLM_MOE_ENABLE_SHARED_EXPERT_FUSION keeps its name and its meaning, but is read through the collected selection environment as ``MoEEnvFlag.SHARED_EXPERT_FUSION`` rather than from ``os.environ`` at construction, so it enters the selection fingerprint. It decides how many expert slots the routed GEMM builds, and two ranks disagreeing on it could otherwise share a fingerprint while building differently shaped layers. Two APIs main grew on the monolith are carried onto the family base rather than dropped. ``situ_supported_quant_algos`` (NVIDIA#18709) is derived from the leaves' own ``supports_situ`` instead of a restated set -- restating it is what that PR was fixing. The SiTu MoE-TP check asks for whole scale groups rather than the physical alignment (NVIDIA#18870), which is the right constraint now that the padded loaders pad each logical shard themselves. BREAKING CHANGE, taken deliberately, and it supersedes NVIDIA#18770. Resolution picks an implementation from the model-level ``quant_algo``, and two later passes can give an individual layer a different ``quant_config``: ``apply_layerwise_quant_config`` for per-layer quantization, and ``apply_quant_config_exclude_modules`` for a module the checkpoint leaves unquantized. The monolith served every format from one class, so a layer that moved needed only a different op provider -- which is what NVIDIA#18770 re-resolved in ``create_weights``, moving an NVFP4 model's unquantized MoE layer onto FlashInfer, the only provider carrying BF16 kernels. A leaf *is* its (provider, format) pair, so there is no field left to re-resolve: the class itself is wrong, and the layer would have to become a different one. That is deferred binding, which this branch deliberately does not carry, so the same checkpoint raises at load instead. ``ConfigurableMoE._resync_op_provider`` and ``test_moe_op_provider_resync.py`` go with it. ``use_flashinfer`` is a constant of the leaf class now, so the mirror they kept in step can never move and the NVLink two-sided guard they carried can never fire. The budget goes to the message instead. By the time the check runs, the pass that moved the layer has returned, so the raise names the layer index, both formats, and the two passes that could be responsible. ``test_a_leaf_refuses_a_layer_whose_format_moved_after_it_was_picked`` pins it so it cannot regress quietly. test_moe_impl.py covers the grid as a whole: that exactly eleven trtllm_gen identities register, that each leaf declares its own descriptor and all four abstract methods rather than inheriting them, that each admits only its own format, and that the parent is unaddressable -- plus the provider and SiTu gates, the DeepSeek-V4 split, and the identity-query parser. MOE_DEVELOPER_GUIDE.md is updated for the new layout and for the rule that an abstract parent must not branch on the axis its subclasses divide. Signed-off-by: xxi <xxi@nvidia.com>
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…leven leaves with canonical identities One class served six quantization formats plus an unquantized BF16 path, across two kernel providers, and decided which of them it was only after it had been constructed. ``__init__`` probed the SM version, the FlashInfer wheel and an opt-in flag and then swapped its own op backend; ``_get_quant_method`` branched on ``layer_quant_mode``; a format whose cubin family ships no SiTu epilogue was found out by a raise in ``__init__``, after selection had already named a winner. None of that was visible to resolution, so the resolver could only answer at family granularity and construction decided whether its answer was real. It is eleven classes now, one per addressable (provider, technique, kernel, quant) coordinate, each registered in ``MOE_IMPL_REGISTRY`` under a canonical ``MoEImplId``. Six are native and five are FlashInfer: the wheel serves five of the seven format coordinates, having no runner for either W4A8 variant with fp8 activation, and carrying the unquantized one alone. Every gate reads ``MoEProblem`` and ``MoEDeployment`` and nothing else -- no ``get_sm_version()``, no ``os.environ``, no import probe -- so an offline tuner on a GPU-less host reaches the verdict a serving process would, and ``trtllm.trtllm_gen.fused_moe.nvfp4`` is addressable as a pin. ``TRTLLMGenFusedMoE`` stays. It is the abstract family base the ``issubclass`` dispatch in create_moe.py keys on, and ``fused_moe_trtllm_gen`` stays a supported module path for callers that import the name. It carries no descriptor and defines none of the four abstract methods, so no request can reach it. Which leaf wins for a given format is unchanged. IMPL_PRIORITY lists each FlashInfer leaf ahead of the native leaf of the same format, so the opt-in flag alone decides which is asked first, and a TRTLLM literal without the flag still lands on the native kernel it always did. What moved is where the answer is given. ``_check_flashinfer_backend_support``'s instance probe is now ``check_flashinfer_provider``, reading the flag through ``MoEEnvironment.env_flag``, so an opted-out FlashInfer leaf declines with PATH_NOT_ENABLED and one on a host without the wheel with DEP_MISSING. SiTu is answered the same way: it exists only as a fused FC1 epilogue in the NVFP4 and W4A8_MXFP4_MXFP8 cubin families, so the other nine leaves are turned down during selection rather than raising once built. DeepSeek-V4 gets its FlashInfer path back. A routing method answers two questions that are not one question: which encoding the C++ kernels recognize, and which algorithm it computes. V4's sqrtsoftplus scoring has no encoding of its own so it borrows V3's, and the provider gate -- which reads a problem rather than an instance, because a problem has to stay comparable across ranks -- matched the borrowed value and turned V4 down for fusing routing it does not fuse. ``resolution_routing_method_type`` is the second answer, defaulting to the first and overridden only where the two differ. A module exclusion now outranks the MoE quant override. ``ConfigurableMoE.create_weights`` treats ``override_quant_config`` as authoritative over whatever ``__post_init__`` wrote, so for a model that passes one, ``apply_quant_config_exclude_modules`` was discarded and the layer allocated quantized weights for experts the checkpoint left in bf16. The backend cannot catch it either, since the override matches the backend's own format and the format check passes. Kimi-K3, MiniMax-M3 and Nemotron-H resolve the exclusion themselves and let it win. The Qwen3 gate stopped naming an implementation. It resolved a class before ``__post_init__`` had settled the layer's format, only to narrow routing to that class's ``routing_scales_dtype`` -- a guess that, when it missed, left routing below what the bound backend requires, which MoEScheduler asserts on rather than repairs, since widening cannot recover mantissa the narrow emit already dropped. Routing emits its own full precision now, and the wrapper reads ``input_requirement.routing_scales_dtype`` back off the bound backend after create_moe returns. That keeps the elementwise launch the guess existed to save without predicting anything: both renormalize ops take the dtype as a kernel argument and store in it directly. TLLM_MOE_ENABLE_SHARED_EXPERT_FUSION keeps its name and its meaning, but is read through the collected selection environment as ``MoEEnvFlag.SHARED_EXPERT_FUSION`` rather than from ``os.environ`` at construction, so it enters the selection fingerprint. It decides how many expert slots the routed GEMM builds, and two ranks disagreeing on it could otherwise share a fingerprint while building differently shaped layers. Two APIs main grew on the monolith are carried onto the family base rather than dropped. ``situ_supported_quant_algos`` (NVIDIA#18709) is derived from the leaves' own ``supports_situ`` instead of a restated set -- restating it is what that PR was fixing. The SiTu MoE-TP check asks for whole scale groups rather than the physical alignment (NVIDIA#18870), which is the right constraint now that the padded loaders pad each logical shard themselves. BREAKING CHANGE, taken deliberately, and it supersedes NVIDIA#18770. Resolution picks an implementation from the model-level ``quant_algo``, and two later passes can give an individual layer a different ``quant_config``: ``apply_layerwise_quant_config`` for per-layer quantization, and ``apply_quant_config_exclude_modules`` for a module the checkpoint leaves unquantized. The monolith served every format from one class, so a layer that moved needed only a different op provider -- which is what NVIDIA#18770 re-resolved in ``create_weights``, moving an NVFP4 model's unquantized MoE layer onto FlashInfer, the only provider carrying BF16 kernels. A leaf *is* its (provider, format) pair, so there is no field left to re-resolve: the class itself is wrong, and the layer would have to become a different one. That is deferred binding, which this branch deliberately does not carry, so the same checkpoint raises at load instead. ``ConfigurableMoE._resync_op_provider`` and ``test_moe_op_provider_resync.py`` go with it. ``use_flashinfer`` is a constant of the leaf class now, so the mirror they kept in step can never move and the NVLink two-sided guard they carried can never fire. The budget goes to the message instead. By the time the check runs, the pass that moved the layer has returned, so the raise names the layer index, both formats, and the two passes that could be responsible. ``test_a_leaf_refuses_a_layer_whose_format_moved_after_it_was_picked`` pins it so it cannot regress quietly. test_moe_impl.py covers the grid as a whole: that exactly eleven trtllm_gen identities register, that each leaf declares its own descriptor and all four abstract methods rather than inheriting them, that each admits only its own format, and that the parent is unaddressable -- plus the provider and SiTu gates, the DeepSeek-V4 split, and the identity-query parser. MOE_DEVELOPER_GUIDE.md is updated for the new layout and for the rule that an abstract parent must not branch on the axis its subclasses divide. Signed-off-by: xxi <xxi@nvidia.com>
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…leven leaves with canonical identities One class served six quantization formats plus an unquantized BF16 path, across two kernel providers, and decided which of them it was only after it had been constructed. ``__init__`` probed the SM version, the FlashInfer wheel and an opt-in flag and then swapped its own op backend; ``_get_quant_method`` branched on ``layer_quant_mode``; a format whose cubin family ships no SiTu epilogue was found out by a raise in ``__init__``, after selection had already named a winner. None of that was visible to resolution, so the resolver could only answer at family granularity and construction decided whether its answer was real. It is eleven classes now, one per addressable (provider, technique, kernel, quant) coordinate, each registered in ``MOE_IMPL_REGISTRY`` under a canonical ``MoEImplId``. Six are native and five are FlashInfer: the wheel serves five of the seven format coordinates, having no runner for either W4A8 variant with fp8 activation, and carrying the unquantized one alone. Every gate reads ``MoEProblem`` and ``MoEDeployment`` and nothing else -- no ``get_sm_version()``, no ``os.environ``, no import probe -- so an offline tuner on a GPU-less host reaches the verdict a serving process would, and ``trtllm.trtllm_gen.fused_moe.nvfp4`` is addressable as a pin. ``TRTLLMGenFusedMoE`` stays. It is the abstract family base the ``issubclass`` dispatch in create_moe.py keys on, and ``fused_moe_trtllm_gen`` stays a supported module path for callers that import the name. It carries no descriptor and defines none of the four abstract methods, so no request can reach it. Which leaf wins for a given format is unchanged. IMPL_PRIORITY lists each FlashInfer leaf ahead of the native leaf of the same format, so the opt-in flag alone decides which is asked first, and a TRTLLM literal without the flag still lands on the native kernel it always did. What moved is where the answer is given. ``_check_flashinfer_backend_support``'s instance probe is now ``check_flashinfer_provider``, reading the flag through ``MoEEnvironment.env_flag``, so an opted-out FlashInfer leaf declines with PATH_NOT_ENABLED and one on a host without the wheel with DEP_MISSING. SiTu is answered the same way: it exists only as a fused FC1 epilogue in the NVFP4 and W4A8_MXFP4_MXFP8 cubin families, so the other nine leaves are turned down during selection rather than raising once built. DeepSeek-V4 gets its FlashInfer path back. A routing method answers two questions that are not one question: which encoding the C++ kernels recognize, and which algorithm it computes. V4's sqrtsoftplus scoring has no encoding of its own so it borrows V3's, and the provider gate -- which reads a problem rather than an instance, because a problem has to stay comparable across ranks -- matched the borrowed value and turned V4 down for fusing routing it does not fuse. ``resolution_routing_method_type`` is the second answer, defaulting to the first and overridden only where the two differ. A module exclusion now outranks the MoE quant override. ``ConfigurableMoE.create_weights`` treats ``override_quant_config`` as authoritative over whatever ``__post_init__`` wrote, so for a model that passes one, ``apply_quant_config_exclude_modules`` was discarded and the layer allocated quantized weights for experts the checkpoint left in bf16. The backend cannot catch it either, since the override matches the backend's own format and the format check passes. Kimi-K3, MiniMax-M3 and Nemotron-H resolve the exclusion themselves and let it win. The Qwen3 gate stopped naming an implementation. It resolved a class before ``__post_init__`` had settled the layer's format, only to narrow routing to that class's ``routing_scales_dtype`` -- a guess that, when it missed, left routing below what the bound backend requires, which MoEScheduler asserts on rather than repairs, since widening cannot recover mantissa the narrow emit already dropped. Routing emits its own full precision now, and the wrapper reads ``input_requirement.routing_scales_dtype`` back off the bound backend after create_moe returns. That keeps the elementwise launch the guess existed to save without predicting anything: both renormalize ops take the dtype as a kernel argument and store in it directly. TLLM_MOE_ENABLE_SHARED_EXPERT_FUSION keeps its name and its meaning, but is read through the collected selection environment as ``MoEEnvFlag.SHARED_EXPERT_FUSION`` rather than from ``os.environ`` at construction, so it enters the selection fingerprint. It decides how many expert slots the routed GEMM builds, and two ranks disagreeing on it could otherwise share a fingerprint while building differently shaped layers. Two APIs main grew on the monolith are carried onto the family base rather than dropped. ``situ_supported_quant_algos`` (NVIDIA#18709) is derived from the leaves' own ``supports_situ`` instead of a restated set -- restating it is what that PR was fixing. The SiTu MoE-TP check asks for whole scale groups rather than the physical alignment (NVIDIA#18870), which is the right constraint now that the padded loaders pad each logical shard themselves. BREAKING CHANGE, taken deliberately, and it supersedes NVIDIA#18770. Resolution picks an implementation from the model-level ``quant_algo``, and two later passes can give an individual layer a different ``quant_config``: ``apply_layerwise_quant_config`` for per-layer quantization, and ``apply_quant_config_exclude_modules`` for a module the checkpoint leaves unquantized. The monolith served every format from one class, so a layer that moved needed only a different op provider -- which is what NVIDIA#18770 re-resolved in ``create_weights``, moving an NVFP4 model's unquantized MoE layer onto FlashInfer, the only provider carrying BF16 kernels. A leaf *is* its (provider, format) pair, so there is no field left to re-resolve: the class itself is wrong, and the layer would have to become a different one. That is deferred binding, which this branch deliberately does not carry, so the same checkpoint raises at load instead. ``ConfigurableMoE._resync_op_provider`` and ``test_moe_op_provider_resync.py`` go with it. ``use_flashinfer`` is a constant of the leaf class now, so the mirror they kept in step can never move and the NVLink two-sided guard they carried can never fire. The budget goes to the message instead. By the time the check runs, the pass that moved the layer has returned, so the raise names the layer index, both formats, and the two passes that could be responsible. ``test_a_leaf_refuses_a_layer_whose_format_moved_after_it_was_picked`` pins it so it cannot regress quietly. test_moe_impl.py covers the grid as a whole: that exactly eleven trtllm_gen identities register, that each leaf declares its own descriptor and all four abstract methods rather than inheriting them, that each admits only its own format, and that the parent is unaddressable -- plus the provider and SiTu gates, the DeepSeek-V4 split, and the identity-query parser. MOE_DEVELOPER_GUIDE.md is updated for the new layout and for the rule that an abstract parent must not branch on the axis its subclasses divide. Signed-off-by: xxi <xxi@nvidia.com>
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…leven leaves with canonical identities One class served six quantization formats plus an unquantized BF16 path, across two kernel providers, and decided which of them it was only after it had been constructed. ``__init__`` probed the SM version, the FlashInfer wheel and an opt-in flag and then swapped its own op backend; ``_get_quant_method`` branched on ``layer_quant_mode``; a format whose cubin family ships no SiTu epilogue was found out by a raise in ``__init__``, after selection had already named a winner. None of that was visible to resolution, so the resolver could only answer at family granularity and construction decided whether its answer was real. It is eleven classes now, one per addressable (provider, technique, kernel, quant) coordinate, each registered in ``MOE_IMPL_REGISTRY`` under a canonical ``MoEImplId``. Six are native and five are FlashInfer: the wheel serves five of the seven format coordinates, having no runner for either W4A8 variant with fp8 activation, and carrying the unquantized one alone. Every gate reads ``MoEProblem`` and ``MoEDeployment`` and nothing else -- no ``get_sm_version()``, no ``os.environ``, no import probe -- so an offline tuner on a GPU-less host reaches the verdict a serving process would, and ``trtllm.trtllm_gen.fused_moe.nvfp4`` is addressable as a pin. ``TRTLLMGenFusedMoE`` stays. It is the abstract family base the ``issubclass`` dispatch in create_moe.py keys on, and ``fused_moe_trtllm_gen`` stays a supported module path for callers that import the name. It carries no descriptor and defines none of the four abstract methods, so no request can reach it. Which leaf wins for a given format is unchanged. IMPL_PRIORITY lists each FlashInfer leaf ahead of the native leaf of the same format, so the opt-in flag alone decides which is asked first, and a TRTLLM literal without the flag still lands on the native kernel it always did. What moved is where the answer is given. ``_check_flashinfer_backend_support``'s instance probe is now ``check_flashinfer_provider``, reading the flag through ``MoEEnvironment.env_flag``, so an opted-out FlashInfer leaf declines with PATH_NOT_ENABLED and one on a host without the wheel with DEP_MISSING. SiTu is answered the same way: it exists only as a fused FC1 epilogue in the NVFP4 and W4A8_MXFP4_MXFP8 cubin families, so the other nine leaves are turned down during selection rather than raising once built. DeepSeek-V4 gets its FlashInfer path back. A routing method answers two questions that are not one question: which encoding the C++ kernels recognize, and which algorithm it computes. V4's sqrtsoftplus scoring has no encoding of its own so it borrows V3's, and the provider gate -- which reads a problem rather than an instance, because a problem has to stay comparable across ranks -- matched the borrowed value and turned V4 down for fusing routing it does not fuse. ``resolution_routing_method_type`` is the second answer, defaulting to the first and overridden only where the two differ. A module exclusion now outranks the MoE quant override. ``ConfigurableMoE.create_weights`` treats ``override_quant_config`` as authoritative over whatever ``__post_init__`` wrote, so for a model that passes one, ``apply_quant_config_exclude_modules`` was discarded and the layer allocated quantized weights for experts the checkpoint left in bf16. The backend cannot catch it either, since the override matches the backend's own format and the format check passes. Kimi-K3, MiniMax-M3 and Nemotron-H resolve the exclusion themselves and let it win. The Qwen3 gate stopped naming an implementation. It resolved a class before ``__post_init__`` had settled the layer's format, only to narrow routing to that class's ``routing_scales_dtype`` -- a guess that, when it missed, left routing below what the bound backend requires, which MoEScheduler asserts on rather than repairs, since widening cannot recover mantissa the narrow emit already dropped. Routing emits its own full precision now, and the wrapper reads ``input_requirement.routing_scales_dtype`` back off the bound backend after create_moe returns. That keeps the elementwise launch the guess existed to save without predicting anything: both renormalize ops take the dtype as a kernel argument and store in it directly. TLLM_MOE_ENABLE_SHARED_EXPERT_FUSION keeps its name and its meaning, but is read through the collected selection environment as ``MoEEnvFlag.SHARED_EXPERT_FUSION`` rather than from ``os.environ`` at construction, so it enters the selection fingerprint. It decides how many expert slots the routed GEMM builds, and two ranks disagreeing on it could otherwise share a fingerprint while building differently shaped layers. Two APIs main grew on the monolith are carried onto the family base rather than dropped. ``situ_supported_quant_algos`` (NVIDIA#18709) is derived from the leaves' own ``supports_situ`` instead of a restated set -- restating it is what that PR was fixing. The SiTu MoE-TP check asks for whole scale groups rather than the physical alignment (NVIDIA#18870), which is the right constraint now that the padded loaders pad each logical shard themselves. BREAKING CHANGE, taken deliberately, and it supersedes NVIDIA#18770. Resolution picks an implementation from the model-level ``quant_algo``, and two later passes can give an individual layer a different ``quant_config``: ``apply_layerwise_quant_config`` for per-layer quantization, and ``apply_quant_config_exclude_modules`` for a module the checkpoint leaves unquantized. The monolith served every format from one class, so a layer that moved needed only a different op provider -- which is what NVIDIA#18770 re-resolved in ``create_weights``, moving an NVFP4 model's unquantized MoE layer onto FlashInfer, the only provider carrying BF16 kernels. A leaf *is* its (provider, format) pair, so there is no field left to re-resolve: the class itself is wrong, and the layer would have to become a different one. That is deferred binding, which this branch deliberately does not carry, so the same checkpoint raises at load instead. ``ConfigurableMoE._resync_op_provider`` and ``test_moe_op_provider_resync.py`` go with it. ``use_flashinfer`` is a constant of the leaf class now, so the mirror they kept in step can never move and the NVLink two-sided guard they carried can never fire. The budget goes to the message instead. By the time the check runs, the pass that moved the layer has returned, so the raise names the layer index, both formats, and the two passes that could be responsible. ``test_a_leaf_refuses_a_layer_whose_format_moved_after_it_was_picked`` pins it so it cannot regress quietly. test_moe_impl.py covers the grid as a whole: that exactly eleven trtllm_gen identities register, that each leaf declares its own descriptor and all four abstract methods rather than inheriting them, that each admits only its own format, and that the parent is unaddressable -- plus the provider and SiTu gates, the DeepSeek-V4 split, and the identity-query parser. MOE_DEVELOPER_GUIDE.md is updated for the new layout and for the rule that an abstract parent must not branch on the axis its subclasses divide. Signed-off-by: xxi <xxi@nvidia.com>
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…leven leaves with canonical identities One class served six quantization formats plus an unquantized BF16 path, across two kernel providers, and decided which of them it was only after it had been constructed. ``__init__`` probed the SM version, the FlashInfer wheel and an opt-in flag and then swapped its own op backend; ``_get_quant_method`` branched on ``layer_quant_mode``; a format whose cubin family ships no SiTu epilogue was found out by a raise in ``__init__``, after selection had already named a winner. None of that was visible to resolution, so the resolver could only answer at family granularity and construction decided whether its answer was real. It is eleven classes now, one per addressable (provider, technique, kernel, quant) coordinate, each registered in ``MOE_IMPL_REGISTRY`` under a canonical ``MoEImplId``. Six are native and five are FlashInfer: the wheel serves five of the seven format coordinates, having no runner for either W4A8 variant with fp8 activation, and carrying the unquantized one alone. Every gate reads ``MoEProblem`` and ``MoEDeployment`` and nothing else -- no ``get_sm_version()``, no ``os.environ``, no import probe -- so an offline tuner on a GPU-less host reaches the verdict a serving process would, and ``trtllm.trtllm_gen.fused_moe.nvfp4`` is addressable as a pin. ``TRTLLMGenFusedMoE`` stays. It is the abstract family base the ``issubclass`` dispatch in create_moe.py keys on, and ``fused_moe_trtllm_gen`` stays a supported module path for callers that import the name. It carries no descriptor and defines none of the four abstract methods, so no request can reach it. Which leaf wins for a given format is unchanged. IMPL_PRIORITY lists each FlashInfer leaf ahead of the native leaf of the same format, so the opt-in flag alone decides which is asked first, and a TRTLLM literal without the flag still lands on the native kernel it always did. What moved is where the answer is given. ``_check_flashinfer_backend_support``'s instance probe is now ``check_flashinfer_provider``, reading the flag through ``MoEEnvironment.env_flag``, so an opted-out FlashInfer leaf declines with PATH_NOT_ENABLED and one on a host without the wheel with DEP_MISSING. SiTu is answered the same way: it exists only as a fused FC1 epilogue in the NVFP4 and W4A8_MXFP4_MXFP8 cubin families, so the other nine leaves are turned down during selection rather than raising once built. DeepSeek-V4 gets its FlashInfer path back. A routing method answers two questions that are not one question: which encoding the C++ kernels recognize, and which algorithm it computes. V4's sqrtsoftplus scoring has no encoding of its own so it borrows V3's, and the provider gate -- which reads a problem rather than an instance, because a problem has to stay comparable across ranks -- matched the borrowed value and turned V4 down for fusing routing it does not fuse. ``resolution_routing_method_type`` is the second answer, defaulting to the first and overridden only where the two differ. A module exclusion now outranks the MoE quant override. ``ConfigurableMoE.create_weights`` treats ``override_quant_config`` as authoritative over whatever ``__post_init__`` wrote, so for a model that passes one, ``apply_quant_config_exclude_modules`` was discarded and the layer allocated quantized weights for experts the checkpoint left in bf16. The backend cannot catch it either, since the override matches the backend's own format and the format check passes. Kimi-K3, MiniMax-M3 and Nemotron-H resolve the exclusion themselves and let it win. The Qwen3 gate stopped naming an implementation. It resolved a class before ``__post_init__`` had settled the layer's format, only to narrow routing to that class's ``routing_scales_dtype`` -- a guess that, when it missed, left routing below what the bound backend requires, which MoEScheduler asserts on rather than repairs, since widening cannot recover mantissa the narrow emit already dropped. Routing emits its own full precision now, and the wrapper reads ``input_requirement.routing_scales_dtype`` back off the bound backend after create_moe returns. That keeps the elementwise launch the guess existed to save without predicting anything: both renormalize ops take the dtype as a kernel argument and store in it directly. TLLM_MOE_ENABLE_SHARED_EXPERT_FUSION keeps its name and its meaning, but is read through the collected selection environment as ``MoEEnvFlag.SHARED_EXPERT_FUSION`` rather than from ``os.environ`` at construction, so it enters the selection fingerprint. It decides how many expert slots the routed GEMM builds, and two ranks disagreeing on it could otherwise share a fingerprint while building differently shaped layers. Two APIs main grew on the monolith are carried onto the family base rather than dropped. ``situ_supported_quant_algos`` (NVIDIA#18709) is derived from the leaves' own ``supports_situ`` instead of a restated set -- restating it is what that PR was fixing. The SiTu MoE-TP check asks for whole scale groups rather than the physical alignment (NVIDIA#18870), which is the right constraint now that the padded loaders pad each logical shard themselves. BREAKING CHANGE, taken deliberately, and it supersedes NVIDIA#18770. Resolution picks an implementation from the model-level ``quant_algo``, and two later passes can give an individual layer a different ``quant_config``: ``apply_layerwise_quant_config`` for per-layer quantization, and ``apply_quant_config_exclude_modules`` for a module the checkpoint leaves unquantized. The monolith served every format from one class, so a layer that moved needed only a different op provider -- which is what NVIDIA#18770 re-resolved in ``create_weights``, moving an NVFP4 model's unquantized MoE layer onto FlashInfer, the only provider carrying BF16 kernels. A leaf *is* its (provider, format) pair, so there is no field left to re-resolve: the class itself is wrong, and the layer would have to become a different one. That is deferred binding, which this branch deliberately does not carry, so the same checkpoint raises at load instead. ``ConfigurableMoE._resync_op_provider`` and ``test_moe_op_provider_resync.py`` go with it. ``use_flashinfer`` is a constant of the leaf class now, so the mirror they kept in step can never move and the NVLink two-sided guard they carried can never fire. The budget goes to the message instead. By the time the check runs, the pass that moved the layer has returned, so the raise names the layer index, both formats, and the two passes that could be responsible. ``test_a_leaf_refuses_a_layer_whose_format_moved_after_it_was_picked`` pins it so it cannot regress quietly. test_moe_impl.py covers the grid as a whole: that exactly eleven trtllm_gen identities register, that each leaf declares its own descriptor and all four abstract methods rather than inheriting them, that each admits only its own format, and that the parent is unaddressable -- plus the provider and SiTu gates, the DeepSeek-V4 split, and the identity-query parser. MOE_DEVELOPER_GUIDE.md is updated for the new layout and for the rule that an abstract parent must not branch on the axis its subclasses divide. Signed-off-by: xxi <xxi@nvidia.com>
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…st MXFP4
KimiK3MoERuntime rejected any routed-expert quantization other than W4A8_MXFP4_MXFP8 on the TRTLLM backend. That was correct when it was written in #17865 -- MXFP4 was then the only fused SiTu FC1 drop -- but (Bmm_E2m1_E2m1E2m1_...siTuGlu*) and updated only TRTLLMGenFusedMoE._SITU_SUPPORTED_QUANT_ALGOS, leaving the model layer's copy behind. Since then the tree has contradicted itself: the backend declares NVFP4 servable and the model refuses to build it.
The blast radius is wider than an explicit backend request. ModelConfig.resolve_moe_backend maps every Kimi K3 architecture to TRTLLM unconditionally, so an NVFP4 K3 checkpoint could not start under the default AUTO configuration either -- the documented workaround ("backend: CUTLASS is required, not a preference") is in examples/kimi_k3/eval_extra_llm_options_nvfp4_dep16.yaml and is itself now stale.
Nothing caught it because every existing SiTu test reaches the kernels through create_moe and never enters this guard, so the NVFP4 x TRTLLM kernel path stayed green for the whole window.
Read the admitted set off the backend instead of restating it, and add the two tests that enter through the guard: one asserting the model admits everything the backend claims, one asserting formats without a fused cubin are still rejected and still name the fix.
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KimiK3MoERuntimenow usesTRTLLMGenFusedMoE.situ_supported_quant_algos().FrozenSet.QA Engineer Review
test_kimi_k3_trtllm_situ_admits_every_backend_supported_quant().test_kimi_k3_trtllm_situ_rejects_quant_without_fused_cubin(quant_algo).tests/integration/test_lists/,test-db/, orqa/.Description
KimiK3MoERuntimerejects any routed-expert quantization other thanW4A8_MXFP4_MXFP8on the TRTLLM backend. That was correct when the guardwas written in #17865 (Aug 21), when MXFP4 was the only fused SiTu FC1
drop. #17940 (Aug 26) then added the group-16 NVFP4 cubins
(
Bmm_E2m1_E2m1E2m1_..._siTuGlu_*) and widenedTRTLLMGenFusedMoE._SITU_SUPPORTED_QUANT_ALGOSto{NVFP4, W4A8_MXFP4_MXFP8}, but left the model layer's copy of thatknowledge behind.
Since then
mainhas contradicted itself. Today, in two files:fused_moe_trtllm_gen.py:_SITU_SUPPORTED_QUANT_ALGOScontainsNVFP4modeling_kimi_linear.py:quant_algo != QuantAlgo.W4A8_MXFP4_MXFP8raises,with a message that still reads "exists only for W4A8_MXFP4_MXFP8"
The backend declares NVFP4 servable; the model refuses to build it.
The blast radius is wider than an explicit backend request.
ModelConfig.resolve_moe_backendmaps every Kimi K3 architecture to TRTLLMunconditionally, so an NVFP4 K3 checkpoint cannot start under the default
AUTO configuration either — not only when someone asks for TRTLLM by name.
The documented workaround (
backend: CUTLASS"is required, not a preference",in
examples/kimi_k3/eval_extra_llm_options_nvfp4_dep16.yaml) is itself asymptom of this guard rather than a real kernel limitation.
Nothing caught it because every existing SiTu test reaches the kernels through
create_moeand never enters the model-layer guard, so the NVFP4 × TRTLLMkernel path stayed green for the whole nine-day window while the model
path was closed.
Fix
Read the admitted set off the backend instead of restating it:
TRTLLMGenFusedMoE.situ_supported_quant_algos(), a public accessor overthe existing private set
KimiK3MoERuntime._check_trtllm_situ_quant(), which asks the backendThe guard itself is kept, not deleted — trtllm-gen still has no standalone
SiTu activation kernel, so a format without a fused cubin must fail here with
an actionable message rather than inside a cubin lookup deep in the runner. It
is still checked against the resolved backend rather than the K3
architecture branch, because the generic
FP8_BLOCK_SCALESfallback inresolve_moe_backendcan also land on TRTLLM.Extracted as a
staticmethodrather than left inline so the invariant isreachable from a test without constructing the whole runtime — which is
precisely what was missing.
No API change. No behavior change for
W4A8_MXFP4_MXFP8, which was alreadyadmitted.
Test Coverage
Two new tests in
tests/unittest/_torch/moe/test_kimi_k3_situ_moe.py, bothentering through the model-layer guard that no existing test reached:
test_kimi_k3_trtllm_situ_admits_every_backend_supported_quant— asserts themodel admits everything the backend claims. It asserts agreement rather
than a literal set, so a future cubin family needs no edit here, and a
removed one fails loudly instead of leaving a stale allow-list. It also
pins
NVFP4 ∈ situ_supported_quant_algos()directly, so if that regressesthe failure names the backend, not the model.
test_kimi_k3_trtllm_situ_rejects_quant_without_fused_cubin— parametrizedover
FP8_BLOCK_SCALES,W4A16_MXFP4, andNone: still rejected, stillnaming the fix. Each case also asserts
CUTLASSis not gated bytrtllm-gen's cubin inventory.
Both are CPU-only and run in the existing unit-test job.
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